Comments on: Covered to death?

Covered to death?

flapjax at midnite — Fri, 22 May 2009 23:26:21 -0800

I had an idea for a Challenge, but I wanted to ask for some help, and also to see if anyone else thinks it's a decent idea... I was thinking, how about a MeFiMu Challenge where we cover a song that's been covered a LOT? I mean, let's take one of the handful of songs that's just been covered in and out and up and down, around and about, by everybody and his sister. One that there just can't possibly be anything new any of us could do with it. Then, of course, we HAVE to do something new with it!

So, the two tunes that came immediately to mind were: 1) Yesterday and 2) Hallelujah. Any other likely candidates? Or is this idea just too stupid? Discuss.

By: Effigy2000

Effigy2000 — Fri, 22 May 2009 23:41:08 -0800

First song that came to mind was Hallelujah, which you already mentioned, followed by Louie Louie. That song has to have been done by just about every artist, ever.

By: chillmost

chillmost — Sat, 23 May 2009 01:04:17 -0800

G-L-O-R-I-A! Glooooooo-ria!

By: Roman Graves

Roman Graves — Sat, 23 May 2009 06:42:58 -0800

I vote for Stagger Lee.

By: dobie

dobie — Sat, 23 May 2009 09:03:50 -0800

Seven Nation Army.

By: micayetoca

micayetoca — Sat, 23 May 2009 10:03:48 -0800

I really like the idea of having us all do the same song, having a bunch of versions of the same song will be fun, interesting, surprising and even pedagogic for some of us, but, I inevitably cringe when I even see Yesterday, Louie Louie or Hotel California written. That kinda kills the thrill for me so, in order to not be a complete killjoy, I propose to do this with a twist: let's all do a song from here. I'm sure selecting one song would be difficult, but perhaps we can sort it out. If someone wants to have a mind refresher of what has been posted, we have the new Archives By User.

Now, if the majority is ok with the former idea, I'll go with it (those are the perils of democracy, after all), and we could still use this for another challenge sometime.

By: umbú

umbú — Sat, 23 May 2009 10:37:57 -0800

What about a variation on the former idea, which would be for each person to choose a highly covered song, and do their version? That way, we can choose a song that is compatible with how and what we usually play.

By: dobie

dobie — Sat, 23 May 2009 10:41:43 -0800

Oh, I posted my comment as a song that I feel has been covered to death and that we should let heal for a while.

By: cortex

cortex — Sat, 23 May 2009 10:57:50 -0800

Heh. I like this idea. I do agree with umbu's notion that it might be better to make the challenge general: "cover a song that's been covered too many times already", though we could include a parenthetical short-list of some of the suggestions in here (I think Yesterday and Hallelujah are right on, the latter especially).

I like the idea of a bunch of covers of just the same song, too, though.

As for other suggestions:

Radiohead's "Creep" is pretty done. "Stairway", too. Eagles, "Desparado"?

Do people cover Hotel California or just play it a lot on jukeboxes and/or from their dorm rooms? I may just be looking for an excuse to cover Hotel California, here. The ukulele does strange things to me.

By: umbú

umbú — Sat, 23 May 2009 10:59:16 -0800

Knockin' on Heaven's Door is right up there, too.

By: micayetoca

micayetoca — Sat, 23 May 2009 11:27:32 -0800

Do people cover Hotel California or just play it a lot on jukeboxes and/or from their dorm rooms?

Sorry, cortex, just playing it in ukulele won't do this one time.

And in my last comment I was too busy suggesting alternatives to actually contribute something to flapjax's idea. If we go with that one, my vote would be for My Way.

By: umbú

umbú — Sat, 23 May 2009 11:48:02 -0800

My Way is a great idea, since the lyrics declare the challenge's theme.

By: ORthey

ORthey — Sat, 23 May 2009 14:54:03 -0800

Others include Suzanne, Eleanor Rigby, Summertime, Cry me a river (original). This is a great idea!

By: snsranch

snsranch — Sat, 23 May 2009 16:29:14 -0800

I'd like to hear Desperado as a Polka. This is a great idea and I like what micayetoca says about all of us or some of us covering the same song just to make sure that the dead horse has been well beaten. Sounds like fun.

The funny thing and some of the brilliance with this idea is that you/we mefi music people are so incredibly creative that whatever you cover is almost guaranteed to be better than all of the thousands of existing covers.

Man, I'm drawing a blank for particular songs though, there's a lot of ground to cover!

Anything by? Black Sabbath, the Rolling Stones, Joan Baez, Bob Dylan?! I like ALL of the above suggestions. This is gonna be a blast.

I have dibs on Desperado as a Polka, now that I think about!

By: chococat

chococat — Sat, 23 May 2009 17:25:58 -0800

Ya, Yesterday was the first thing I thought of.
This is a tricky challenge. It's hard to get inspired to do a song that's been done to death. The obvious thing is to subvert it or deconstruct it, making it new. Or the whole metal-song-played-on-a-banjo, folk-song-done-with-drum-machines inversion kind of thing. I kind of think that's been done to death.
The harder road, I think, is to be true to the existing song but add something to it, somehow.

By: chococat

chococat — Sat, 23 May 2009 17:34:45 -0800

That sounded kind of bitchy.
Sorry, just thinking out loud.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Sat, 23 May 2009 17:55:22 -0800

Nah, didn't come off as too bitchy to me, choco. I hear what you're saying about the obviousness of the kind of cover treatments you mention, and I agree, basically. It can be really easy to do the kind of thing you're talking about, and I'd love to see submissions that, as you've put it, are "true to the existing song but add something to it, somehow." That will indeed be a challenge.

And I'm really glad to see the positive response, overall, to this idea. Yay!

As to whether this will wind up as a 'let's-all-cover-THIS-song', or a 'choose-one-song-from-THIS-LIST'... well, we'll see! I think the former would be really fun, just narrowed down to one song, but the latter certainly adds more flexibility.

By: Karlos the Jackal

Karlos the Jackal — Sun, 24 May 2009 00:47:56 -0800

As to whether this will wind up as a 'let's-all-cover-THIS-song', or a 'choose-one-song-from-THIS-LIST'... well, we'll see! I think the former would be really fun, just narrowed down to one song, but the latter certainly adds more flexibility.

Hi!

I vote for the former. The latter just seems like watering down the concept.

As far as the song, I have no specific ideas. It should maybe be a song with a number of versions that are at or near the same "level," rather than one DOMINANT version and a bunch of coattailers ("Yesterday" being an example of that -- I don't think of that as a song that's been covered a lot, I think of it as a Beatles song that, I suppose, has been covered but no memorable versions spring to mind).

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Sun, 24 May 2009 00:57:51 -0800

Hi Karlos!

I vote for the former. The latter just seems like watering down the concept.

I'm leaning that way too. 5 or 10 or 20 versions of the same song, in the same month, well, that'd just be a stone gas, as they used to say on Soul Train.

And I have to say, I think Hallelujah is... likely.

By: Jon_Evil

Jon_Evil — Sun, 24 May 2009 09:19:55 -0800

There seems to be an unofficial Seven Nation Army contest going already (I've been working out a brass band arrangement on the back burner of my mind for a little while now...), but I would love to hear MeFites beat Hallelujah to death.

By: barrett caulk

barrett caulk — Sun, 24 May 2009 15:57:11 -0800

Hells yes! Let us all cover the same damn song. And while I would never advocate dictating guidelines for what individuals do with it, chococat has a fine point: the impulse toward novelty/irony could smother this challenge. I'd be fine with Hallelujah . Let's bury Buckley once and for all!

By: danb

danb — Sun, 24 May 2009 18:36:39 -0800

I seem to remember reading that Yesterday is the most covered song of all time.

By: snsranch

snsranch — Sun, 24 May 2009 20:17:18 -0800

I'm down with Yesterday. I know we'll probably be offered a list to choose from now, but Yesterday should be really easy to annihilate. (sp)

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Sun, 24 May 2009 22:04:37 -0800

I'm down with Yesterday.

No, no, snsranch. This is a cover Challenge, no mash ups allowed!

By: micayetoca

micayetoca — Mon, 25 May 2009 05:26:53 -0800

hmm. That kinda bars goodnewsfortheinsane from resubmitting his crazy Yesterdelilah if Yesterday is chosen.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Mon, 25 May 2009 07:00:39 -0800

That kinda bars goodnewsfortheinsane from resubmitting his crazy Yesterdelilah if Yesterday is chosen.

No problem. We'll just have to have another Challenge later on: "cover a song that's already been covered a gazillion times by everyone including yourself!"

But, I'm leaning toward Hallelujah, y'all. Leaning hard...

By: micayetoca

micayetoca — Mon, 25 May 2009 07:34:15 -0800

You know that I had actually never heard Hallelujah before this post? Not that it matters or makes any difference, I just thought I'd mention it because it does seem to be wildly popular and I had never even heard about it. I wish I could say that about Yesterday and Gloria.

By: cortex

cortex — Mon, 25 May 2009 08:00:08 -0800

I'm leaning toward Hallelujah for the monolithic choice, too, yeah. It's structure is more bare-bones than Yesterday, which I think is probably ideal since it leaves people more room to Do Their Thing with it instead of focusing on trying to cover Lennon/McCartney's (perfectly nice, granted) changes and melodic hijinks.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Mon, 25 May 2009 08:22:34 -0800

Alright then, it's a wrap. Signed, sealed, delivered. Carved in stone. A cast-iron fact.

The June Metafilter Music Challenge is... HALLELUJAH!

And, hey, check it out, everybody gets an extra full week to work on it! Woo-hoo!

today was my birthday, so the early notice is my birthday present to MeFi Music and myself...

By: micayetoca

micayetoca — Mon, 25 May 2009 08:38:57 -0800

What do you mean was? it's still your birthday here. Congratulations flapjax!

By: umbú

umbú — Mon, 25 May 2009 10:49:18 -0800

Aw, man. What can I do with that? I can only do earnest if I'm pretending to be wayward Givewell philanthropists. I'll give it my best shot.

By: dobie

dobie — Mon, 25 May 2009 16:52:04 -0800

God it hurts me to think about that song.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Mon, 25 May 2009 18:34:58 -0800

No pain no gain.

By: snsranch

snsranch — Mon, 25 May 2009 18:37:56 -0800

Happy Birthday! Woo Hoo!

By: snsranch

snsranch — Mon, 25 May 2009 18:42:01 -0800

Oh, wait a minute...No mashups? Now I have to start all over!

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Mon, 25 May 2009 18:44:29 -0800

It'll be... just like starting ooooooover...

By: dobie

dobie — Mon, 25 May 2009 19:33:12 -0800

If I finish what I started tonight you will all be sorry.

By: MajorDundee

MajorDundee — Tue, 26 May 2009 13:02:28 -0800

Hi flapjax - I've obviously arrived too late at this party, but I just belatedly wondered if national anthems count as the most covered songs (I suppose I am taking the piss slightly here). I trombone and paper-covered-comb arrangement of the Marsaillaise (sp?) would be pretty effing cool and would also wind Johnny Frog up a treat. I'm considering having a crack at Halleluja in the style of a drunken Cockney pub singer accompanied by out-of-tune and inexpertly played piano....Gawd bless yer gov'nor!

By: cortex

cortex — Tue, 26 May 2009 13:15:58 -0800

Heh. I think maybe we could roll out National Anthems (Not Necessarily Yours) as a challenge in a few months.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Tue, 26 May 2009 15:21:10 -0800

MajorDundee, consider your National Anthems idea 'submitted and on file'. I think that'd be a real fun one, and we'll probably be rolling it out soon.

Meanwhile, those of you still watching this thread... send me more Challenge ideas. New ideas needed, keep 'em coming, etc. etc.

By: Jon_Evil

Jon_Evil — Tue, 26 May 2009 16:15:01 -0800

I'm gonna apologize in advance for the forthcoming ska cover.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Tue, 26 May 2009 16:17:01 -0800

Hey, the ska's the limit.

ok, I apologize for that too

By: snsranch

snsranch — Tue, 26 May 2009 19:11:11 -0800

OK, I admit it, I live in a cave. What should I google or look for on youtube, for hallelujah?!

Maybe I'm just having a brain fart, but this isn't rag or a spiritual right?!

By: BrnP84

BrnP84 — Tue, 26 May 2009 19:19:45 -0800

This is the version I always think of when it comes to Hallelujah, than I found out later Jeff Buckley didn't write it but it was Leonard Cohen. I still prefer Jeff Buckley's version, it's really a great great recording.

By: snsranch

snsranch — Tue, 26 May 2009 19:24:39 -0800

Thanks! I'm off to check it out!

By: chococat

chococat — Tue, 26 May 2009 21:26:35 -0800

Damn you, MajorDundee. My national anthem was totally going to be my contribution for this challenge, before they settled on Halle-fucking-lujah.
But I guess I'm not as clever as I thought I was. And neither are you!

By: askmeaboutLOOM

askmeaboutLOOM — Tue, 26 May 2009 23:10:26 -0800

Does anyone happen to have the full 80 verses? Between Cohen's two main recorded versions, I only have about 7, and I'd like to do all of them. Should sound awesome squished down to 10 MB.

By: MajorDundee

MajorDundee — Wed, 27 May 2009 13:34:12 -0800

chococat - chill out there - you're one ahead of the rest of us then! I'm not going to do my national anthem - God Save The Queen - because (a) the Pistols did the definitive version and (b) it has to be the most dreary piece of crap ever. Very British though - safe, dull, boring, predictable and wet. So a pretty damn perfect fit then.........

By: chococat

chococat — Wed, 27 May 2009 16:24:09 -0800

chococat - chill out there
Chilled!
That sounded way less hostile as I was typing it when I got home last night.
Sorry about that; I was attempting some levity.

By: askmeaboutLOOM

askmeaboutLOOM — Thu, 28 May 2009 12:20:51 -0800

I'm not sure how exactly it will go, but rest assured, our version will have Bass Flute.

By: bunnytricks

bunnytricks — Thu, 28 May 2009 21:23:34 -0800

Love Will Tear Us Apart could not be covered more.

(unless it's makes the challenge)

By: not_on_display

not_on_display — Thu, 28 May 2009 21:49:48 -0800

Two words for y'all:

MacArthur
Park

I'm only half-kidding. Of course the first song I thought of was "Yesterday," but not because I've heard any covers of it, but because I know it holds the record. "Happy Birthday" came to my mind the second.

AH! I got one:

Train Kept a Rollin'

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Fri, 29 May 2009 05:32:09 -0800

Thanks for these last minute suggestions, y'all, but the June challenge is definitely HALLELUJAH, or, Halle-fucking-lujah, as renamed upthread!

By: MajorDundee

MajorDundee — Fri, 29 May 2009 15:49:13 -0800

Has anyone noticed, during drunken fumblings with MiFi Music, that if you have one track running and click on another you get both playing at once? An easy challenge (i.e. you don't actually have to record anything) would be to see which hybrid - a sort of genetic modification, I guess - produces the most interesting result. A simple voting system would do the trick. Obviously we would call this the "Frankenstein Challenge". Perhaps one for July or August?? Of course it might simply be that my computer's fucked.....

By: chococat

chococat — Fri, 29 May 2009 16:58:39 -0800

Has anyone noticed...
Yup.
A couple other times too, but I can't find the links.

By: The World Famous

The World Famous — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 11:49:00 -0800

Ok. Who's going to be the first to post their Hallelujah? I'm mostly done with my version that will probably anger anyone who likes Leonard Cohen, Jeff Buckley, or the song itself. I won't have time to work on it more until early next week, but I'm a little distressed that I might be the only person who is actually doing it and I don't feel like being the challenge opener. Is anyone else actually doing this challenge? If you're not, I'm still going to post mine when it's done. But come on - let's actually do this one, because I don't want to post mine and then have people assume that, because I did this challenge, I must actually like Hallelujah.

By: cortex

cortex — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 11:57:10 -0800

I have like three different ideas for recordings I want to do (including an Elvishy uke-based number called "Halle Hula"), but I've also got a busy demo recording I made a year or so ago when I was home sick from work and had gone hoarse. I may post that in a bit just to be sassy.

By: cortex

cortex — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:18:27 -0800

In fact, there you go.

By: The World Famous

The World Famous — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:35:06 -0800

Very nice. That will light a fire under me to finish mine, too. Thanks!

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:55:06 -0800

...let's actually do this one

Heh.

By: The World Famous

The World Famous — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:38:00 -0800

...let's actually do this one

Heh.

This was intended less as an indictment of the community (I've done what, one challenge track?) than a commentary on my suspicion that enthusiasm for covering Hallelujah might turn out to be less than had been initially anticipated. Given the awesomeness of Cortex' opener, however, I am optimistic.

By: cortex

cortex — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:56:05 -0800

Ironically, my track record for followthrough on challenges has been miserable, and in this case I've only got a qualifying entry in the can by coincidence. Let's see if I actually record my other, newer versions. Heh.

By: xorry

xorry — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:32:07 -0800

Someone very awesome wrote up a little history of covers of Hallelujah a couple of years ago: http://www.clapclap.org/2007/04/hallelujah.html.