July 2007 Archives (all archives)

July 31

Haddado TarraT odaddaH

A song that mirrors itself.

posted by tehloki at 11:00 PM PST - 4 comments

Observational Comedy

Album's finished, yo. What better reason to give you another outtake? B-movies is available from CD Baby (North America) and the B-movies web shop (elsewhere); or get cheap, legal MP3s from Amie Street.

posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 5:18 PM PST - 3 comments

love is great

vintage me, but the more songs posted here the better, right?

posted by snofoam at 4:52 PM PST - 0 comments


sunny here

posted by nicolin at 4:58 AM PST - 3 comments

Guns, Germs and Shit and Shit

Keyboard != Drum Kit

posted by BoatMeme at 3:49 AM PST - 4 comments

July 30

Chordish Song

Another song I've recorded this summer, guitar, voice, phrase sampler (you can hear the click triggering the chorus here). As always, critique, etc - I'm totally open to suggestions and ideas as far as where (and whether) to develop these ideas

posted by tmcw at 10:21 PM PST - 3 comments

The Guitar

Warning: Song contains no actual guitar. (More Inside)

posted by tehloki at 8:36 PM PST - 6 comments

Happy Birthday, Mom!

This is a little song I put together for my mom's birthday a few days ago. Unfortunately, tuning was an issue, especially with all the untunables -- the toy piano, old keyboard w/dying batteries, and dollar store recorder. Well, I think it's still kinda fun, regardless.

posted by The Great Big Mulp at 11:38 AM PST - 4 comments

July 29

Lambda Loops

This is a song about mushrooms. I think.

posted by tehloki at 3:33 PM PST - 3 comments

Piano piano piano

I think this is a pretty fun riff/song. Using a piano, loop pedal, and recording on my laptop Critique the hell out of it, as usual. (And, yes, I'm technically no pianist.) Any suggestions about how to 'flesh it out' would be welcome, too!

posted by tmcw at 12:28 PM PST - 2 comments

Stare Into the Blackness

In honor of the nu-shoegazer post I decided to put this up. My favourite production work. Seven seperate guitar tracks were used.

posted by Chocomog at 7:20 AM PST - 2 comments

July 28


Ambient guitar. More here.

posted by xmutex at 10:21 PM PST - 6 comments

gigantic sebadoh

sebadoh gigante en ingles.

posted by snofoam at 6:39 PM PST - 1 comments

Server Sound

Made with samples found in a subfounder of my steam directory. FLStudio, how I love thee. (some samples nsfw)

posted by tehloki at 3:14 PM PST - 4 comments

Old Man

A cover of my very favorite Randy Newman song, which is also maybe the saddest song I know.

posted by ORthey at 11:52 AM PST - 6 comments


This is sort of the summer culmination of a song that me and some of my friends have built up. This version is solo (all of the extra 'tracks' are live loops) Oh, and critique the hell out of it!

posted by tmcw at 10:04 AM PST - 3 comments


This is a song from the same sessions as this one but featuring the full band . In the end the band weren't happy with the final recordings but I'm quite happy with this one!

posted by TwoWordReview at 6:47 AM PST - 3 comments

July 27

So Weird

Submitted to SongFight (under pseudonym Minty Handy) for the about-to-be-posted fight "So Weird", and felt like posting it here as well. The musical journey from "where's my uke and what's this week's title?" to "oh crap, gotta pick up the kids, one more take and I'll submit it" took about an hour.

posted by davejay at 10:42 PM PST - 7 comments

sebadoh gigante

soy el sebadoh gigante, voy a seducir tu novia con mis canciones de amor alternativas.

posted by snofoam at 6:11 PM PST - 5 comments

prama says

she cannot feel a thing

posted by poppo at 5:13 AM PST - 4 comments

July 25

Plate of Beans

I was thinking about a plate of beans. They fought back.

posted by rhizome23 at 8:55 PM PST - 5 comments

Never Alone

I thought I'd toss up a recent demo I'm unsure about and see what the feedback is. There are big problems with the drums, chorus vocals, lead guitar, to name a few, but those are easily fixed, if it's worth it. Sounds like Uncle J on the bass.

posted by erikgrande at 8:27 PM PST - 3 comments

What I Deserve

A song about being left behind. Sometimes, it's deserved, but it can still suck. (The guitars aren't real. Or the bass. Or the drums ...)

posted by NemesisVex at 7:09 PM PST - 2 comments

invisible bees

a swarm in a small room.

posted by nicolin at 2:06 PM PST - 2 comments

studio time: 2007-03-25

First thing: this file is 9.98 megs. Score. Second: The track is upwards of ten minutes. It's from a series casually referred to as studio time - hit the jump for a better description. The upshot is that this is me, sitting at a piano, with no particular idea of what to play.

posted by ikebowen at 8:29 AM PST - 1 comments

July 24

lost my beer

a true story song. at least, parts of it are true. hank plank and the 2x4s, circa 2000.

posted by snofoam at 4:41 PM PST - 5 comments

caracola de mar

En una pequeña calle en arles, bernardo sandoval canta.

posted by nicolin at 11:51 AM PST - 4 comments


This is fairly old, recorded on a... shoot. I've no idea. A digital piano, anyway. Pardon the uninspired title.

posted by ikebowen at 6:35 AM PST - 3 comments

July 23

Three Ringer

Someone gave me a Hammond Audio-Vari drum machine a few Christmases back, I enjoy really simple music so I put this together. It's inspired by a visit to a circus many years ago. I'm glad I've been drunkenly poking around Metafilter tonight, I posted some music on the 'Projects' section weeks ago but this is much more appropriate.

posted by PHINC at 11:26 PM PST - 3 comments


i made this a few years ago, spacey and twisted, no lyrics. still one of the songs i've done that i'm happy with. mellow. some more stuff on my myspace, let me know what you think of what it sounds like inside my head.

posted by knowles at 9:52 PM PST - 1 comments


Rehearsals : three tunes that we (a big band) were to play on stage in a small jazz festival in Millau, Aveyron, southern France.

posted by nicolin at 2:41 AM PST - 8 comments

July 22

Crash Into Mr Xcitement

Mashup I made for fun, had laying around on my hard drive, and remembered while reading this thread. The tracks are "Crash" from Gwen Stefani's "Love. Angel. Music. Baby." (written by her and Tony Kanal) and "Mr. Xcitement" from They Might Be Giant's "Mink Car" (and featuring Mike Doughty on vocals.) What I like about it is that neither track is an acapella track, and that both singers (like both music tracks) are overlapping throughout, but it still works -- other than a tempo (but *not* pitch) change to speed up "Crash" and a few measure movements/cuts, no other changes were necessary. Note that release of the TMBG/Doughty track predates the Stefani track, and that I cut off the spoken word intro and painfully long musical ending of the TMBG track (which the Stefani track did not overlap) to save you all download time.

posted by davejay at 3:45 PM PST - 7 comments

Picture of You

This is a song about missing someone when they are gone.

posted by snofoam at 2:04 PM PST - 3 comments

jim gets lost on purpous

jaunty little ditty about poor ol' jim, cuckolded soon after moving to boston with his finance. not entirely sure where this came from except that i'm very very very often lost in boston. usual stuff: buzz guitars, fake drums, computer blips and me shrieking like a dolt. enjoy!

posted by es_de_bah at 1:42 PM PST - 7 comments

波動 (Hadou/Undulation)

A cover of a song by AJICO. I'm still learning how to record vocals on Cakewalk SONAR, and I'm nowhere near UA.

posted by NemesisVex at 12:24 PM PST - 3 comments

July 21

stupid angel boy

This is an older song, comprised about six years ago. It is an angsty song, concocted in response to the second lesbian with whom I was madly enamored declining and telling me I was "beatific". It is a poppy song, and I wouldn't post it were it not, in my opinion, catchy. I'm well over the emotions, but the song is still kinda cute.

posted by The Great Big Mulp at 9:24 PM PST - 7 comments

July 20

Bit by a Snake

When Uncle J and I heard the new challenge theme was "snake", we both immediately thought of an old goof song of ours from years ago. We decided it deserved to be rerecorded...

posted by erikgrande at 11:49 PM PST - 3 comments

Green and Long and Mean

This is a song that is very informative about the characteristics and dangers of snakes.

posted by cortex at 10:10 PM PST - 9 comments

Resh Day Lo

Melissa May and I featuring our friends DJ Sku and Approach.

posted by sleepy pete at 8:28 PM PST - 5 comments

They Slither, So There

Squeezed in on the last day of the challenge, this is a modern snake charming piece. It's ambient/experimental/electronic. Complete with rattlesnake sample.

posted by ageispolis at 5:46 PM PST - 0 comments

South of the Border

Directions and hearts aren't easy; it's hard to follow one, let alone both at the same time. (The tuning may have been DADF#BE capoed to the second fret.)

posted by allaboutgeorge at 2:55 PM PST - 3 comments

July 19


A quirky but perhaps oddly serious song inspired by that old Snake video game, written and recorded for the mefi music challenge.

posted by edlundart at 11:20 PM PST - 11 comments

bong take3

it lives in the cold dead shell of my broken G5

posted by criticalbill at 7:04 AM PST - 0 comments

Sneaky's Courtship

This is a ssssmooth ssssong about sssssnakes in love, baby. Recorded in sssssstereo for your lissstening enjoyment.

posted by nollaf126 at 1:51 AM PST - 4 comments

July 18

The Imlovence (of My Heart)

I had promised Sarah I would write her a song. Granted, that was while we were dating. We're not anymore. But I did promise, and she is a superly awesome person, wholly deserving of a song. The chorus comes from a facecloth we found in a dollar store, and it's words, three of which being nonexistent, can be found within the bowels of this music post.

posted by The Great Big Mulp at 9:00 PM PST - 10 comments

White Van

I was watching a horror movie about two years ago when it occured to me that it was the music which made me feel uncomfortable and anxious. Since that time I’ve been working on making an album that connects a listener to their own imagery. I have a story for this album, but then I think everyone’s got a story of their own… White Van is a track from my first album, SOUNDTRACK, due to be released October 31, 2007. Thanks for listening! (www.sound-track.ca)

posted by thehipcola at 7:50 PM PST - 3 comments


This is a collaboration with the great micayetoca and an attempt to recreate what one might hear from the pre-columbian Maya. (snake)

posted by snsranch at 4:29 PM PST - 6 comments

Terry Riley: In C

This recording is an experiment to see how well Ableton Live handles a performance of Terry Riley's "In C". (more inside)

posted by NemesisVex at 4:15 PM PST - 5 comments

Snake Song

A song about snakes.

posted by spacedog at 2:54 PM PST - 6 comments

July 17

rocket to venus

Hank Plank and the 2x4s. We've been a band for over a decade, which is amazing to us. this is a song about space exploration.

posted by snofoam at 8:38 PM PST - 3 comments

Hot Rod Fever

The first complete song from a new collaboration of mine. The group is called Gentleman Robot and I've been working with one Rachel Rhodes, a transplanted Texan in France whose vocals ROCK. We decided to make something classic-rocky (across teh intarwebs, no less), and here it is.

posted by grubi at 1:46 PM PST - 2 comments

Until You Sever The Snake

Written and recorded for the serpentine challenge now underway. My buddy Ken Kawashima brought in the North Mississippi blues riff and yours truly did the rest. Apologies to animal rights advocates, but some snakes were severed during the recording of this song. Had to be done. [lyrics inside]

posted by flapjax at midnite at 1:49 AM PST - 8 comments

We're Moving

We are moving in 2 weeks and a while ago we "fluffed" our house to make it look pretty so we could sell it and that entailed removing any trace of human habitation. As a result, all our stuff has been packed away for weeks and I've been going insane in our neatly arranged, showy house in which no one could possibly live a normal life.

posted by chococat at 12:37 AM PST - 10 comments

July 15

Three Prayers in Irish Gaelic: I. Ár nAthair

Way, way back, I posted a request on Usenet for translations of some Catholic prayers into Irish. I wrote a vocal work with those translation for a composition class. For this recording, I used the solo cello sample in Reason and let MIDI take care of the rest. The harmonies weren't part of the original score.

posted by NemesisVex at 7:28 PM PST - 3 comments

Have a Good Time

A waltz. From our album Planks of Grass, which is split between NYC and PDX songs, this one is NYC.

posted by snofoam at 2:12 PM PST - 7 comments

July 14

Happy Birthday Metafilter (#8)

A dangerously sappy populist paean to the great blue pylon where we like to have our pile-ons. Here's to eight more, you crazy website.

posted by cortex at 3:29 PM PST - 14 comments

July 12


One of my old songs played on a sequencer I wrote in Lotus Notes. Dissonance warning! Still needs work but turned out much better than I expected.

posted by alex_reno at 2:06 AM PST - 3 comments

July 11

polar bear club

13 of 13 - herby and the polar bear club ... brrrrrrrr

posted by pyramid termite at 9:47 AM PST - 2 comments

The Parade at Bobbleton

I wrote this in 2004 as a goodbye to the web-game, Game Neverending, which I'd been really into in the preceding period. Bobbleton was probably the most popular location in the game. At the time I was also interested in the chip-music aesthetic of 32-bit games consoles and the work of Nobuo Uematsu and this track was a sort of experiment in trying to achieve that aesthetic without using the consoles themselves.

posted by nthdegx at 2:19 AM PST - 0 comments

July 10


Tuned the guitar way down and added some banjo. This song does this thing where it equates "snake" with "girl." Like a metaphor, see. Also: it seems to play better through headphones (possibly because of the use of stereo). But maybe I just have bad speakers.

posted by ORthey at 6:52 PM PST - 6 comments

Fume [Beck]

I've seen a few covers recently and decided to dig up this bluegrass version of Beck's Loser B-side masterpiece. Warning: contains the word "fuck", stark depictions of inhalant abuse, and piping hot banjo rolls.

posted by erikgrande at 6:49 PM PST - 5 comments

secure the ports

Made up especially for the current challenge. If you listen, it should be pretty clear how it fits into the theme.

posted by snofoam at 5:03 PM PST - 8 comments

dillinger's hand of glory - vampire deer

12 of 13 - herby and the polar bear club ... don't light your cigarettes with it

posted by pyramid termite at 9:19 AM PST - 0 comments

July 9

Great Big Kiss Off

An early song by The Action Items, which was usually just me, but on this song also includes dainty dave on the drums. Posted in response to the song that is hopefully still immediately preceding this one.

posted by snofoam at 4:47 PM PST - 1 comments

Second Ring

Wherein I discover writing a song about kissing off an ex is easier and more satisfying than kissing off an ex.

posted by allaboutgeorge at 2:30 PM PST - 3 comments

This Is Why I'm Fantastic

by Fantastic Plastic Mims; my first foray into the mashing of up. Please be kind, this took me well over ten minutes.

posted by East Manitoba Regional Junior Kabaddi Champion '94 at 11:27 AM PST - 26 comments

wintering - vampire deer

11 of 13 - herby and the polar bear club ... what i did last summer

posted by pyramid termite at 5:14 AM PST - 0 comments

sippin' on some severus

sexy parseltongues seek to seduce snape, spells abound.

posted by kimyo at 1:00 AM PST - 2 comments

July 8


I wanted to make a song with a few of the instruments I rarely use, like the reed organ and toy piano. I thought about coming up with lyrics, but my hangover makes my brain feel ... not working so good. So I threw in some kazoo instead. Enjoy!

posted by The Great Big Mulp at 7:49 PM PST - 9 comments

Transport Sec

by Lestrade. MySpace. Last.fm.

posted by nthdegx at 4:50 PM PST - 2 comments

unhiphop [ar 2]

Some more noodling with Live and Reason. Brooding percussion and bright leads. I'm happy with the results but it needs a better title. Feedback appreciated.

posted by C.Batt at 4:48 PM PST - 2 comments

Can't It Be True

I arranged this simple version of a song from a Linda Ronstadt compilation for a play at the request of the director. 3 acoustic guitars an synth drums, all done in Garageband.

posted by lazaruslong at 3:44 PM PST - 2 comments

you will not lol metal

A song based on this thread about loling metal that melissa may and I wrote tonight.

posted by sleepy pete at 12:14 AM PST - 6 comments

July 7

angel turning into stone - vampire deer

10 of 13 - herby and the polar bear club ... after which it's really hard for them to fly

posted by pyramid termite at 9:46 PM PST - 0 comments

it's always dark in my car

why didn't i just call this "zomby queen?"

posted by TonyRobots at 5:54 PM PST - 0 comments

Twist and Shout [The Beatles]

Continuing with the theme from yesterday, (and as promised), here's my version of "Twist and Shout." Is it any good? That's for you to decide. I hope it is. Perhaps "I'll Get You" is next?

posted by grubi at 10:07 AM PST - 7 comments

July 6

Multnomah Falls

So named because it is also split into two parts, first small then larger, and kinda makes me feel like I did standing on the bridge in between.

posted by InfidelZombie at 10:39 PM PST - 4 comments

undertow - vampire deer

09 of 13 - herby and the polar bear club ... a cheerful ditty about metaphorical drowning

posted by pyramid termite at 9:32 PM PST - 0 comments


This is an old song, not written for the mefi music challenge water theme, but the lyrics kind of fit, so I decided to upload it. I actually wrote this waltz about having a cold, but it sounds very "oceanic."

posted by edlundart at 9:24 PM PST - 4 comments

Toft Snutch

A sleazy lounge jazz scat of some of the fine, fine mefite limericking showcased in this thread about witches and the resulting metatalk discussion.

posted by cortex at 7:08 PM PST - 17 comments

Casual Friday

So this is a song that my band PROMIS recorded about two years ago. We're from New Orleans and finished tracking on August 27, two days before Hurricane Katrina hit town. The song isn't about New Orleans though--it's about Oakland, California, in particular the Rockridge neighborhod and riding "casual carpool" across the Bay Bridge. The instruments are a CP-30, a synth, drums, and some live violin.

posted by ray_ray at 5:45 PM PST - 5 comments

Paying No Mind

The song started as a very simple guitar progression and evolved from there. I love the sound of crickets, frogs, locusts, rain, thunder, etc. Nature in general. So I found some sound clips, added some more guitar, an oboe here, a drum fill there, and there it is. Simple and relaxing.

posted by nollaf126 at 11:04 AM PST - 7 comments

Hold Me Tight [The Beatles]

In hono(u)r of the anniversary of the nucleus of the Beatles coming together, I bring you a cover of a song that both Lennon and McCartney derided as not all that good, but I always kinda liked. Maybe tomorrow, I'll upload my version of "Twist and Shout." :-)

posted by grubi at 9:32 AM PST - 7 comments

July 5

Fog Horn Narrative

Boats on the north sea, fog horns, seagulls, surf, moby dick, 20,000 leagues and more fog horns.

posted by French Fry at 11:30 PM PST - 8 comments

Dance of the Ice Crab

There is a bowl filled with various amounts of wather (I tried to tune it in Gmin) and some synth (sub aqua) Just found out about this contest today, did it in two hours! The lead is very rough and rushed (clumsy?), but it is interesting. This is the first time I've tried to create a song in years..

posted by xorry at 7:39 PM PST - 5 comments

the River Girl

A song by my band, the Notes and Scratches, kind of about Vivian Eliot and featuring a bunch of water. I sing and play the acoustic and the harmonium.

posted by verysleeping at 6:53 PM PST - 14 comments


Only tangentially related to the theme of the challenge, but my testing audience thought the song sounded like ripples, and that seemed like enough (plus it motivated me to finish sooner than I might have!).

posted by advil at 6:14 PM PST - 4 comments

oooh, lord!!!

sorry, this isn't new, but it's probably new to you! the backing vocals are "water, water, water, water...WIIIIIIINE!"

posted by snofoam at 5:20 PM PST - 7 comments

When You're Feeling Thirsty

Here's a song about water and how important it is.

posted by spacedog at 2:51 PM PST - 5 comments

the wind - vampire deer

08 of 13 - herby and the polar bear club ... la la la la la

posted by pyramid termite at 10:03 AM PST - 1 comments


Recorded in 2001 during a thunderous rainstorm while working in the desert at Lake Powell in Utah. All sounds apart from rain/thunder are guitar - 5 total. I think.

posted by MvE at 7:31 AM PST - 3 comments

Hey settle down

I always hear people describe indie rock as jangly, and I'm not sure what they mean, but this sounds jangly to me. There are 8 different instruments on this track and I play everything except drums. So there.

posted by dobie at 6:39 AM PST - 3 comments

Used To Ride That Train

There must've been hundreds of times over the years that I've tapped out a rhythm on a pan full of water while doing the dishes, the pitch woozily shifting as the h2o sloshes about. At those times I've almost always thought, hey, I should put this on a track sometime. Of course, I never did, until the first MeFi Music Challenge, with its "water" theme. Along with the big metal bowl full of troubled waters, you'll hear jawharp, talking drum, bombo drum, bell, shaker and vocal. [Lyrics and more inside]

posted by flapjax at midnite at 4:11 AM PST - 10 comments


This song is about my wife, who was far away at the time. Recorded entirely on an old Tascam 8-track: no ones or zeroes allowed. I'll put a new one up, as well... but I had to upload this one because its so watery. CREDITS: Tyler Massey (that's me): composition, guitar & rubbishy, slightly-out-of-tune vocal; Joel Hatfield: production, bass, & backing vocal; Alex Kendall, drums; Kevin Allison: guitar & backing vocal. 1995.

posted by chuckdarwin at 2:21 AM PST - 6 comments

July 4

Burning need. Write a song.

This isn't a particularly good song, so I recommend you don't listen if you like music. Which you do. Pay no attention to all my shitty lyrics peppering your music page, now, if you please.

posted by The Great Big Mulp at 9:34 PM PST - 5 comments

You Promised There Would Be Girls [demo]

I wrote and recorded this today - it's basically a stream-of-consciousness account of one of the stranger and more entertaining parties I've attended.

posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 5:19 PM PST - 6 comments

While the Gittin' is Good

Surfy-punky song inspired by a friend's recent decision to quit his job and travel for a while. Recorded in GarageBand, drums provided by a drummer friend who tapped them out on his keyboard for me because none of the drum loops sounded right. My first complete project in GarageBand.

posted by mccreath at 3:37 PM PST - 2 comments

Love You To Death

A real dirty blues track about murder, complete with slide guitar solo and a nice heavy beat. It's still a rough mix so will have to tweak a few bits and pieces.

posted by TwoWordReview at 12:34 PM PST - 5 comments

gray angel - vampire deer

07 of 13 - herby and the polar bear club ... gray song for a gray day

posted by pyramid termite at 5:45 AM PST - 0 comments

July 3

White Devil

More noise rock from my defunct band, struction.

posted by brevator at 3:42 PM PST - 0 comments


First song ever written, and completed. Written/recorded in 2 hours flat. Fishing for feedback.

posted by sindas at 10:15 AM PST - 10 comments

calico zoo - vampire deer

06 of 13 - herby and the polar bear club ... it's animal farm on thorazine

posted by pyramid termite at 12:39 AM PST - 0 comments

July 2

sailing on right by

a soulful meditation on a future where both water and human kindness are in scant supply.

posted by kimyo at 7:16 PM PST - 22 comments


Many layers of distortion and sampling create a blanket of noise that I find beautiful and terrifying. Please to be playing this as loud as possible.

posted by BlackLeotardFront at 7:01 PM PST - 3 comments

I Like Hat

Acapella sample, killer synth, creepy fembot vocals. A song about hats.

posted by ageispolis at 10:34 AM PST - 5 comments

July 1

Nested Sorrow

An instrumental I composed entirely on ukelele, first song I wrote for the uke as well.

posted by Chocomog at 9:18 PM PST - 2 comments

Rain in the Desert

This is a slightly older song, released in '06, but I thought it fit the challenge. I wrote it shortly after moving to L.A. when I was awakened by a thunderstorm, and fell back asleep to some strange dreams... -Leland

posted by danandleland at 8:30 PM PST - 7 comments

Water Rising

Going electric for the first MeFi music challenge. Enjoy. (By the way, everything I know about beatboxing, I learned from Tom Waits.)

posted by buriednexttoyou at 6:01 PM PST - 7 comments

herby - vampire deer

05 of 13 - herby and the polar bear club ... herby was a real person who rode the rails and drew these on boxcars ... i never met him, but i've talked to someone online who hobo'd with him

posted by pyramid termite at 2:12 PM PST - 0 comments

I Have to Drink the Water

A little rumbler about a man on a desert planet obsessed with drinking a vial of blue liquid (NOT DUNEIST), and the women that love him.

posted by eddydamascene at 1:34 PM PST - 0 comments

The Pool Across the Street

A song about love and breaking into pools at midnight.

posted by sleepy pete at 10:05 AM PST - 6 comments

floating on a river

A song about tubing, written (and sung) by a good friend of mine. It's not new, but this gave me an excuse to dig up an old record that rarely gets heard. Enjoy!

posted by waxboy at 7:49 AM PST - 0 comments