Propellerhead's Record in Beta

So Props new product Record is in beta, I've signed up. I'm kinda disappointed that they didn't include any kind of plugin architecture natively. I can handle not having plugins, b/c of ReWire, but it would have been nice to have esp. for tools like Melodyne. On the plus side, the arrangement and mixing additions look very, very nice.
posted by bigmusic (11 comments total)

Could you record Audio in Reason?

looks nice. i the mix engine supposed to sound like an SSL?
posted by mary8nne at 5:49 AM on May 12

The mixing desk is supposed to be modeled after the SLL, but the proof is in the pudding.
posted by bigmusic at 7:59 AM on May 12

The lack of plug-in architecture makes it useless as a DAW IMO. Looks like I wont be getting rid of ableton or Logic anytime soon. I am still going to check it out though, the virtual mixing desk made me drool a bit.
posted by sundri at 9:36 AM on May 12

I enjoyed the "band" in that promo video far more than I should have. Comedy goodness.
posted by Paid In Full at 11:39 AM on May 12

The mixer looks like a nightmare. Twisting virtual knobs with a mouse is incredibly frustrating. I hope you'd be able to enter values with the keyboard. The fluid time-stretching is pretty nice, though, as is the included POD and Bass POD. Hell, if the PODs include the model packs, it'd just about be worth the price of admission.

Still, for the price, I'd probably take Logic, but hey, if it sounds good and works for you, go for it.
posted by uncleozzy at 12:21 PM on May 12

The lack of plug-in architecture makes it useless as a DAW IMO.

i don't know - if one has a 2nd computer to run the softsynths on, you could just record as another audio track - (tobybear's minihost is great for this) - basically, they've added audio recording capability to a reason set up, if you have reason

299 seems like a bit much for that

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The mixer looks like a nightmare. Twisting virtual knobs with a mouse is incredibly frustrating. I hope you'd be able to enter values with the keyboard.

you can record your knob twidding, of course - and something like a korg nanocontrol is much more useful than a mouse

although i prefer to play in a way that fits in with the rest of the tracks without a lot of manipulation of knobs, so i can keep levels fairly constant - it's hard to do, but it's worth the effort
posted by pyramid termite at 9:49 PM on May 12

well, it's 149 if you already have reason
posted by pyramid termite at 9:52 PM on May 12

Yeah I just can't understand why music software designers persist with creating controls that are knobs - mouse dragging to twist a circle is just about the stupidest interaction method on a computer that I've ever seen. That and relying on someone not being colourblind to know that a particular control is off or on (red-green). Fuck I hate that.

Meanwhile, back to Record - I read the CDM review of it but I have to say the reason for it still eludes me. I even watched the video and still couldn't see the benefits. I would like to try it out though - I switched from Acid to Ableton a while ago and to be honest I still haven't really gotten used to Ableton. Mind you I haven't had enough time to either...
posted by awfurby at 10:55 PM on May 12

In Logic, clicking on the knobs and dragging up or down will have the same effect as twisting them. I have a mind to see whether the scroll-wheel on my Wacom tablet's mouse has the same effect (maybe it does, and maybe I've been doing it for months without noticing). Perhaps it's the same here.

I confess, I can't see the point of this program either, but then I've found my own personal preferred DAW (as I mentioned, Logic), so perhaps this is going to be someone else's. It does come down to taste so much.
posted by Grangousier at 12:57 PM on May 13

As far as I can tell it's only really a killer app if you are already a user of Reason -- it brings in .rns files natively instead of via some weird rewire setup.

I have every intention of getting this and using it (I love the Reason vocoder so much I put vocal tracks into the sampler to use it), but if you're not a Reason person, I have to say I don't see much reason to get it.... but if you ARE a Reason user and love using it, this is the sort of thing you've probably been waiting for.
posted by chimaera at 5:02 PM on May 13

I so wish Propellerhead would do what Image Line did and make (at least some of) their devices available as standalone VST / VSTi plugins. That would be the killer app, for me. I'm not switching away from Cubase as a master DAW any time soon, and being unable to route my own audio through Reason's effects modules is kind of lame.
posted by jake at 11:44 AM on May 19