ReDo It Again
March 19, 2011 11:25 AM
Re-mixed Beach Boys "Do It Again" .. If you're a die hard Beach Boys fan and might take offense to a remix... save your ears and don't click!
So, we have a record with this song on it and once or twice it would get stuck on an endless loop of just the drums at the very beginning, so I thought I'd play around with that idea.
So, we have a record with this song on it and once or twice it would get stuck on an endless loop of just the drums at the very beginning, so I thought I'd play around with that idea.
posted by starman (26 comments total) 1 user marked this as a favorite
Nobody REALLY likes the Beach Boys, right? I haven't met anyone who would admit to that in YEARS.
posted by reklus at 7:49 PM on March 19, 2011
posted by reklus at 7:49 PM on March 19, 2011
Aging surfers still listen to them for the nostalgia. In fact there's a part in this mix that sounds like going underwater. Pretty cool.
posted by snsranch at 1:08 PM on March 20, 2011
posted by snsranch at 1:08 PM on March 20, 2011
I like the Beach Boys - and I don't give a flying fuck whether that's cool or not. And I've never surfed in my life! If I could come up with something as breathtakingly original as Good Vibrations was back in the day, or as sublime as God Only Knows is on any fucking day I'd die a happy man. You guys should be venerating Brian Wilson - he's one of your own. It's very sad to see the work of this great musician dismissed out of hand.
So far as this cut-up goes, the timing is out in quite a few places. But maybe it's supposed to be. Nice try though.
posted by MajorDundee at 3:12 PM on March 20, 2011 [2 favorites]
So far as this cut-up goes, the timing is out in quite a few places. But maybe it's supposed to be. Nice try though.
posted by MajorDundee at 3:12 PM on March 20, 2011 [2 favorites]
Pretty playful. I like the blatty, splatty feel.
Nobody REALLY likes the Beach Boys, right?
Seriously? The Beach Boys are insanely great. What, incomparably gorgeous harmonies, staggeringly beautiful melodies, and strikingly inventive arrangements aren't worth anything to anyone anymore?
The problem with the Beach Boys is they went on too long. If they had quit before, say, "Kokomo" (and if Mike Love wasn't such an ass) they would be thought of much differently today.
Aging surfers still listen to them for the nostalgia.
YOU ARE GOING DOWN
posted by Karlos the Jackal at 3:30 PM on March 20, 2011
Nobody REALLY likes the Beach Boys, right?
Seriously? The Beach Boys are insanely great. What, incomparably gorgeous harmonies, staggeringly beautiful melodies, and strikingly inventive arrangements aren't worth anything to anyone anymore?
The problem with the Beach Boys is they went on too long. If they had quit before, say, "Kokomo" (and if Mike Love wasn't such an ass) they would be thought of much differently today.
Aging surfers still listen to them for the nostalgia.
YOU ARE GOING DOWN
posted by Karlos the Jackal at 3:30 PM on March 20, 2011
On non-preview: Hooray for Major Dundee!
posted by Karlos the Jackal at 3:30 PM on March 20, 2011
posted by Karlos the Jackal at 3:30 PM on March 20, 2011
So far as this cut-up goes, the timing is out in quite a few places.
Yeah, I sort of liked the accidental syncopated parts so I left them in. The rest of the parts that are off are probably due to not wanting to lose too many hours of work in this particular song, but it was more practice/experimental since I'd never really done something like this before.
(And yes the Beach Boys are great)
posted by starman at 4:20 PM on March 20, 2011
Yeah, I sort of liked the accidental syncopated parts so I left them in. The rest of the parts that are off are probably due to not wanting to lose too many hours of work in this particular song, but it was more practice/experimental since I'd never really done something like this before.
(And yes the Beach Boys are great)
posted by starman at 4:20 PM on March 20, 2011
This is a cool remix, I enjoyed it.
Nobody REALLY likes the Beach Boys, right?
They're probably the most obvious influence of the band Animal Collective, a band which has arguably changed music (or 'indie' music, I should probably say, or something) the most visibly in the past 5 years. Seems like all my favorite musicians can't talk enough about how much they love the Beach Boys, and especially Brian Wilson.
posted by Corduroy at 5:26 PM on March 20, 2011
Nobody REALLY likes the Beach Boys, right?
They're probably the most obvious influence of the band Animal Collective, a band which has arguably changed music (or 'indie' music, I should probably say, or something) the most visibly in the past 5 years. Seems like all my favorite musicians can't talk enough about how much they love the Beach Boys, and especially Brian Wilson.
posted by Corduroy at 5:26 PM on March 20, 2011
Aging surfers still listen to them for the nostalgia.
YOU ARE GOING DOWN
posted by Karlos the Jackal at 3:30 PM on March 20 [+] [!]
You're on man! Meet me at the old pier at 5am and whoever shoots the pier first wins.
Seriously though, didn't mean to demean the Beach Boys. On the one hand, they were not really "surfers" so on that regard they're kinda bogus and hodads. On the other hand none of that really matters. Music is a totally different thing. Kinda like Dick Dale, who wasn't a surfer but still "stoked" generations of surfers and/or music lovers in exactly the same way as the Beach Boys. (Of course I recognize that the level of musical accomplishment between the Beach Boys and Dick Dale aren't exactly comparable because they each offer completely different things.) Etc. and so on.
posted by snsranch at 6:22 PM on March 20, 2011
YOU ARE GOING DOWN
posted by Karlos the Jackal at 3:30 PM on March 20 [+] [!]
You're on man! Meet me at the old pier at 5am and whoever shoots the pier first wins.
Seriously though, didn't mean to demean the Beach Boys. On the one hand, they were not really "surfers" so on that regard they're kinda bogus and hodads. On the other hand none of that really matters. Music is a totally different thing. Kinda like Dick Dale, who wasn't a surfer but still "stoked" generations of surfers and/or music lovers in exactly the same way as the Beach Boys. (Of course I recognize that the level of musical accomplishment between the Beach Boys and Dick Dale aren't exactly comparable because they each offer completely different things.) Etc. and so on.
posted by snsranch at 6:22 PM on March 20, 2011
Hey sns - how about a future challenge around covering a Beach Boys classic. We could assemble a bunch of MeFiMooers to tackle "Good Vibrations" etc? Team of three or four volunteers for, say, two or three songs would maybe work? Or maybe get seven or eight people to put their hands up to do Good Vibes. Naturally, we'd be doing a version not a carbon copy, so it could be a little more ballsy than the original or whispier or trippier or differently arranged or have different instrumentation or whatever the cat drags in. And, nope, I don't want to be the svengali (happy to manufacture the bullets for others to fire!) :-))
To save me doing another thread or dropping you a note - another thought I've had on challenges is what I'd describe as "Produced By........?". You record a track (probably this idea might work better with well-known covers, but that's not essential) and try to produce it in the style of, say, Phil Spector or Daniel Lanois or Arif Mardin or anyone who has a trademark production sound. REM as if produced by Phil Spector might be quite interesting.....you get the idea. The challenge is simple - listeners have to guess who the fictitious producer is.
posted by MajorDundee at 3:28 AM on March 21, 2011
To save me doing another thread or dropping you a note - another thought I've had on challenges is what I'd describe as "Produced By........?". You record a track (probably this idea might work better with well-known covers, but that's not essential) and try to produce it in the style of, say, Phil Spector or Daniel Lanois or Arif Mardin or anyone who has a trademark production sound. REM as if produced by Phil Spector might be quite interesting.....you get the idea. The challenge is simple - listeners have to guess who the fictitious producer is.
posted by MajorDundee at 3:28 AM on March 21, 2011
Hey Major, great ideas! I'm going to open up a Music talk thread to talk about them and some other stuff.
posted by snsranch at 3:37 PM on March 21, 2011
posted by snsranch at 3:37 PM on March 21, 2011
WHAT THE FUCK?
Nobody likes the Beach Boys?
WHAT THE FUCK?
You need to go and listen to The Warmth of the Sun and In My Room repeatedly until your musical taste is recalibrated.
Un fucking believable.
posted by unSane at 9:06 AM on March 22, 2011
Nobody likes the Beach Boys?
WHAT THE FUCK?
You need to go and listen to The Warmth of the Sun and In My Room repeatedly until your musical taste is recalibrated.
Un fucking believable.
posted by unSane at 9:06 AM on March 22, 2011
(and yes I have surfed a bit and used to be one-fifth of the UK's premier instrumental surf combo so I GOT MONEY IN THIS FIGHT).
posted by unSane at 9:07 AM on March 22, 2011
posted by unSane at 9:07 AM on March 22, 2011
WHAT THE FUCK?
Nobody likes the Beach Boys?
WHAT THE FUCK?
In response I am, unS, metaphorically pouring you a scotch, rolling an enormous spliff, exuding a Zen-like calm and saying "Chill my friend, chill. These kids wouldn't know quality if they were pissing on it. Fuck 'em. Let's put Pet Sounds on and get wasted" ;-)
posted by MajorDundee at 1:08 PM on March 22, 2011
Nobody likes the Beach Boys?
WHAT THE FUCK?
In response I am, unS, metaphorically pouring you a scotch, rolling an enormous spliff, exuding a Zen-like calm and saying "Chill my friend, chill. These kids wouldn't know quality if they were pissing on it. Fuck 'em. Let's put Pet Sounds on and get wasted" ;-)
posted by MajorDundee at 1:08 PM on March 22, 2011
I've always thought the beach boys were too shrill + thin sounding. Plus I hate love songs song in falsetto almost more than anything. They hurt my ears worse than Nickleback, who is bad enough to make me want to break things.
The production values were good for their time relative to what other American pop groups were doing but to me still sound like a thinly EQ version of a Beatles 33 played at 45 with some reverb.
Plus growing up hearing Pet Sounds described as the greatest album ever by people who haven't heard much else since it was released when they were in their teens makes one a bit immune to the charm of that album.
For my money the greatest album ever is "The Downward Spiral" by Nine Inch Nails, which came out when I was a teen. No coincidence there, I think.
posted by reklus at 1:48 PM on March 22, 2011
The production values were good for their time relative to what other American pop groups were doing but to me still sound like a thinly EQ version of a Beatles 33 played at 45 with some reverb.
Plus growing up hearing Pet Sounds described as the greatest album ever by people who haven't heard much else since it was released when they were in their teens makes one a bit immune to the charm of that album.
For my money the greatest album ever is "The Downward Spiral" by Nine Inch Nails, which came out when I was a teen. No coincidence there, I think.
posted by reklus at 1:48 PM on March 22, 2011
BTW, I DO know quality, but I also know the difference between true quality and religious fervor.
It's all just music made by people. There's no mystical quality to it other than what our brains put there. Nothing to get upset about. My whole life people have tried to get me into their religion, bet it The Dead or Phish or the Beach Boys, Southern Baptism, and I've always been turned off by the groupthink more than the message that the religious belief offers.
I've also found that people who REALLY like the thing they're being religious about can't be made upset by someone insulting their object of worship. If someone tells me that a band, book, tv show I really dig sucks, I don't get upset because at my heart I know they're wrong relative to me.
If I'm faking it, then I'd be more likely to get a bit flustered and worked up. People only take offense to something they to know in their heart to be at least a little true. If I say the Beach Boys were purple cannibals, you wouldn't get upset because it's not even possible that it's true. If I say that they suck, isn't it at all a bit possible that you're getting upset because you know in your heart that perhaps they've been a BIT overrated?
Not to say that they suck, just that I don't like them at all.
At all.
posted by reklus at 1:57 PM on March 22, 2011
It's all just music made by people. There's no mystical quality to it other than what our brains put there. Nothing to get upset about. My whole life people have tried to get me into their religion, bet it The Dead or Phish or the Beach Boys, Southern Baptism, and I've always been turned off by the groupthink more than the message that the religious belief offers.
I've also found that people who REALLY like the thing they're being religious about can't be made upset by someone insulting their object of worship. If someone tells me that a band, book, tv show I really dig sucks, I don't get upset because at my heart I know they're wrong relative to me.
If I'm faking it, then I'd be more likely to get a bit flustered and worked up. People only take offense to something they to know in their heart to be at least a little true. If I say the Beach Boys were purple cannibals, you wouldn't get upset because it's not even possible that it's true. If I say that they suck, isn't it at all a bit possible that you're getting upset because you know in your heart that perhaps they've been a BIT overrated?
Not to say that they suck, just that I don't like them at all.
At all.
posted by reklus at 1:57 PM on March 22, 2011
Oh dear. Bit of misinterpretation here reklus and perhaps a bit of cross-pond cultural static. I'm not an apologist or evangelist for the Beach Boys or Brian Wilson. Not all of thier material was top-drawer, obviously, and I only have a couple of thier albums (that are played infrequently). And I agree about the Pet Sounds proselytisers - it's not that great an album in my view, and no match for Sgt Pepper for instance. What I was saying to unSane was pretty lighthearted and perhaps not the sort of humour than non-Brits can readily appreciate - particularly the oblique, crusty-old-gent references to "young people today don't know their arses from their elbows" etc.
My main beef here was the apparently total dismissal of the BBs as an embarassing irrelevance. They're far from that. There are a good half dozen tracks by them that are eternal diamonds in a sea of mediocrity and shit. Personally, I'm glad I've been around while someone like Brian Wilson has been on the planet. I'm not going to get into evaluating the relative merits of Brian Wilson and whoever is the main man in Nine Inch Nails.
No offence reklus - let's leave it at "agree to disagree" huh?
posted by MajorDundee at 2:18 AM on March 23, 2011 [1 favorite]
My main beef here was the apparently total dismissal of the BBs as an embarassing irrelevance. They're far from that. There are a good half dozen tracks by them that are eternal diamonds in a sea of mediocrity and shit. Personally, I'm glad I've been around while someone like Brian Wilson has been on the planet. I'm not going to get into evaluating the relative merits of Brian Wilson and whoever is the main man in Nine Inch Nails.
No offence reklus - let's leave it at "agree to disagree" huh?
posted by MajorDundee at 2:18 AM on March 23, 2011 [1 favorite]
While I'm at it, another one of those sanctified albums from the 60's that I've never really connected with is Van Morrison's "Astral Weeks". Nope - don't get it at all. Same with most of Radiohead's output (gasp!).
Should have put this up as another Talk thread perhaps...."Blind Spots" or some similar title.
posted by MajorDundee at 2:24 AM on March 23, 2011
Should have put this up as another Talk thread perhaps...."Blind Spots" or some similar title.
posted by MajorDundee at 2:24 AM on March 23, 2011
My reply was actually more towards Unsane, but I appreciate your explanation, thanks!
posted by reklus at 8:15 AM on March 23, 2011
posted by reklus at 8:15 AM on March 23, 2011
reklus, you probably shouldn't take people so seriously
posted by unSane at 8:24 AM on March 23, 2011
posted by unSane at 8:24 AM on March 23, 2011
The problem is that I've had multiple people say exactly the same thing as you in real life, but without even a slight tinge of humor so I can't really tell the difference. I've had people explode in my face because I said that Van Halen wasn't really my thing and then had to listen to lectures about how I'd understand once I got a bit older. I've had hippies gang up on me trying to explain the merits of Phish.
And every one of these folks had the same underlying message: If you don't like the music I like, it's because you're not educated or open minded enough.
I think that is what I was responding to. Sorry for causing a problem.
posted by reklus at 11:04 AM on March 23, 2011
And every one of these folks had the same underlying message: If you don't like the music I like, it's because you're not educated or open minded enough.
I think that is what I was responding to. Sorry for causing a problem.
posted by reklus at 11:04 AM on March 23, 2011
No problem was caused, Reklus!
I've had hippies gang up on me trying to explain the merits of Phish.
Now that could really fuck you up.
posted by unSane at 11:21 AM on March 23, 2011
I've had hippies gang up on me trying to explain the merits of Phish.
Now that could really fuck you up.
posted by unSane at 11:21 AM on March 23, 2011
And every one of these folks had the same underlying message: If you don't like the music I like, it's because you're not educated or open minded enough. I think that is what I was responding to. Sorry for causing a problem.
Hey reklus - don't feel bad man. There is no problem here at all. Music is one of those things where you get this kind of "gang" mentality amongst people which can manifest itself as the old "cool/uncool" dichotomy or talking down to you or any other kind of wanker behaviour. It's almost exclusively a male preserve for some reason and seems to manifest itself in blind support for bands, football teams or brands of motorcycle or whatever. People can make such arses of themselves banging on about how their favourite (usually the more obscure the better) band/team/motorcycle/guitar/whisky/whatever is better than your terminally uncool mainstream million-selling fave. Ignore them. There's a good Brit word you need to use in the face of this kind of nonsense: BOLLOCKS!! Shout it out, it feels good!! BOLLOOCCCKKKSSSSS!!! YEAHH. You stick to your guns - like what you like, and dislike what you dislike - fuck 'em all!!
Only other advice I'd give is - next time you want to say you don't like a band, just say that. Don't say "nobody likes them" or "They suck" or "They're shit". Nobody can really argue with "I don't like Radiohead". That's just a statement of fact, it isn't a comment on the merits of the band or an invitation to argue/discuss. But "Thom Yorke is a spaz and his band sucks" will surely invite a shit-storm to descend. And it ain't really what you mean, so why incur the hassle?
posted by MajorDundee at 12:25 PM on March 23, 2011
Hey reklus - don't feel bad man. There is no problem here at all. Music is one of those things where you get this kind of "gang" mentality amongst people which can manifest itself as the old "cool/uncool" dichotomy or talking down to you or any other kind of wanker behaviour. It's almost exclusively a male preserve for some reason and seems to manifest itself in blind support for bands, football teams or brands of motorcycle or whatever. People can make such arses of themselves banging on about how their favourite (usually the more obscure the better) band/team/motorcycle/guitar/whisky/whatever is better than your terminally uncool mainstream million-selling fave. Ignore them. There's a good Brit word you need to use in the face of this kind of nonsense: BOLLOCKS!! Shout it out, it feels good!! BOLLOOCCCKKKSSSSS!!! YEAHH. You stick to your guns - like what you like, and dislike what you dislike - fuck 'em all!!
Only other advice I'd give is - next time you want to say you don't like a band, just say that. Don't say "nobody likes them" or "They suck" or "They're shit". Nobody can really argue with "I don't like Radiohead". That's just a statement of fact, it isn't a comment on the merits of the band or an invitation to argue/discuss. But "Thom Yorke is a spaz and his band sucks" will surely invite a shit-storm to descend. And it ain't really what you mean, so why incur the hassle?
posted by MajorDundee at 12:25 PM on March 23, 2011
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